Yeah. That's one of the reasons I don't use ancestry.
I hope to put together some kind of web presentation for the talk I'm
giving in DC and posting it on youtube. I won't be me talking. It'll be
just the graphics with some narration. People won't change their
information unless given good reason to do so. And Ancestry certainly
won't change the way they give suggested lineages to their folks. It's
really a poor model, and there's no way for the users to get feedback from
outside Ancestry. I'm also beginning to think that many Ancestry users
don't use google any more, which is too bad.
Actually, these users didn't misread the Constable entry--one person did
several years ago and everyone just copies it. I generally ignore middle
names and initials unless I find them on a real document. People make
these things up all the time--like the way that Hamil decided Willem Cool
and Francis Cooley were the same people, making a wholly new person she
dubbed William Francis Cooley. We need always be vigilant about this. We
do make mistake and poor assumptions, but we need to correct things
according to new data.
-Michael
> Many descendents on Ancestry have added John Cooley, Sr.'s name as John
> Constable Cooley. I think they misread the history in NC because it
> refers
> to him serving as a Constable and they took that as a name and not a local
> position. Others have just repeated it.
> Jane
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Cooley" <michael_at_newsummer.com>
> To: "John Cooley Mailing List" <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Fw: James Cooley, son of John A. Cooley]
>
>
>> Well, I have a few comments about this.
>>
>> First, there is nothing to suggest that John used the middle initial A.
>> Some give him a C. The A is almost certainly an artifact left over from
>> the confusion with the Fayette county PA Cooleys.
>>
>> I don't think anyone disagrees that the John who married Elizabeth White
>> was Joseph's son.
>>
>> Here's what I've put together so far on the Goodes:
>>
>> http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/alliedfamilies/richardgoode-desc.html
>>
>> There's nothing to suggest that James's Jane was a Goode. It's just as
>> likely that Timothy Goode Cooley was named for a friend of the family as
>> was Thomas Hutchins Cooley, son of John Jr.
>>
>> Everyone knows my take on the James who married Jane White. I believe
>> that
>> James's James was simply too young. Kiergen believed that he may have
>> been
>> Joseph's and that's where Mildred Tallant placed him. I think Dale
>> Walker
>> simply misinterpreted the data, as he did with so much else.--Not to
>> take
>> anything away from him. He did good work, but he frequently changed his
>> mind to suit any new data that came in, as should be the case. This
>> isn't
>> so much a question about who was right, but what the data tells us. The
>> data tells me that James Cooley's son James was probably born in 1808
>> and
>> too young to have four kids by the mid-1820s.
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>> ---------------------------- Original
>>> Message ----------------------------
>>> Subject: Fw: James Cooley, son of John A. Cooley
>>> From: "Jane Wisdom" <jdwisdom_at_cox.net>
>>> Date: Tue, July 10, 2012 10:07 am
>>> To: michael_at_newsummer.com
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> I have trouble sending scans to the Cooley list. If possible, could
>>> you
>>> send this to the list.
>>>
>>>
>>> When we were doing the grave marking ceremony for Randolph White in
>>> 2010,
>>> this brief report was sent to me concerning some questions on the James
>>> Cooley family. Laurele White was the Macon County, Mo Cooley-White
>>> researcher that made huge contributions to this history. Mrs. White
>>> died
>>> in 2010. She also mentions the researcher from Seattle. As you can
>>> see,
>>> she was not certain who the James Cooley that married Jane White was
>>> so
>>> perhaps none of us should jumped too fast on this call. She had worked
>>> on
>>> this history for many, many years and her children are very involved in
>>> the Macon Historical Society so if there was any proof, one way or the
>>> other, they should have known. Plus her husband descended from James
>>> Cooley, through Jemima that married Thomas Kirkland White.
>>>
>>> As far as John Cooley that married Elizabeth White, I think that
>>> question
>>> has been answered from the autobiography of Joseph Cooley, son of
>>> William
>>> C. Cooley(John, Joseph, John A.) He was not very old when his
>>> grandfather
>>> died, but his grandmother lived longer and his father, William also was
>>> alive so surely Joseph would have known who his great grandfather was
>>> with
>>> all those people still living.
>>> Jane
>>>
>>>
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