"Not a normal migration!" That's very bizarre.
> A couple of years ago I decided to do a patriot for DAR using John
> Cooley's
> service as a constable. However, they turned it down, not because of his
> job as
> a constable, but because of his death. They said that it wasn't a normal
> migration from NC to KY to MO. I figured I could send more documentation
> but
> said "heck with it" and didn't bother.
>
> Sandy
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
> Sent: Tue, July 10, 2012 12:34:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Fw: James Cooley, son of John A. Cooley]
>
> Yeah. That's one of the reasons I don't use ancestry.
>
> I hope to put together some kind of web presentation for the talk I'm
> giving in DC and posting it on youtube. I won't be me talking. It'll be
> just the graphics with some narration. People won't change their
> information unless given good reason to do so. And Ancestry certainly
> won't change the way they give suggested lineages to their folks. It's
> really a poor model, and there's no way for the users to get feedback from
> outside Ancestry. I'm also beginning to think that many Ancestry users
> don't use google any more, which is too bad.
>
> Actually, these users didn't misread the Constable entry--one person did
> several years ago and everyone just copies it. I generally ignore middle
> names and initials unless I find them on a real document. People make
> these things up all the time--like the way that Hamil decided Willem Cool
> and Francis Cooley were the same people, making a wholly new person she
> dubbed William Francis Cooley. We need always be vigilant about this. We
> do make mistake and poor assumptions, but we need to correct things
> according to new data.
>
> -Michael
>
>> Many descendents on Ancestry have added John Cooley, Sr.'s name as John
>> Constable Cooley. I think they misread the history in NC because it
>> refers
>> to him serving as a Constable and they took that as a name and not a
>> local
>> position. Others have just repeated it.
>> Jane
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Cooley" <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>> To: "John Cooley Mailing List" <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 12:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Fw: James Cooley, son of John A. Cooley]
>>
>>
>>> Well, I have a few comments about this.
>>>
>>> First, there is nothing to suggest that John used the middle initial A.
>>> Some give him a C. The A is almost certainly an artifact left over from
>>> the confusion with the Fayette county PA Cooleys.
>>>
>>> I don't think anyone disagrees that the John who married Elizabeth
>>> White
>>> was Joseph's son.
>>>
>>> Here's what I've put together so far on the Goodes:
>>>
>>> http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/alliedfamilies/richardgoode-desc.html
>>>
>>> There's nothing to suggest that James's Jane was a Goode. It's just as
>>> likely that Timothy Goode Cooley was named for a friend of the family
>>> as
>>> was Thomas Hutchins Cooley, son of John Jr.
>>>
>>> Everyone knows my take on the James who married Jane White. I believe
>>> that
>>> James's James was simply too young. Kiergen believed that he may have
>>> been
>>> Joseph's and that's where Mildred Tallant placed him. I think Dale
>>> Walker
>>> simply misinterpreted the data, as he did with so much else.--Not to
>>> take
>>> anything away from him. He did good work, but he frequently changed his
>>> mind to suit any new data that came in, as should be the case. This
>>> isn't
>>> so much a question about who was right, but what the data tells us. The
>>> data tells me that James Cooley's son James was probably born in 1808
>>> and
>>> too young to have four kids by the mid-1820s.
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>>> ---------------------------- Original
>>>> Message ----------------------------
>>>> Subject: Fw: James Cooley, son of John A. Cooley
>>>> From: "Jane Wisdom" <jdwisdom_at_cox.net>
>>>> Date: Tue, July 10, 2012 10:07 am
>>>> To: michael_at_newsummer.com
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> I have trouble sending scans to the Cooley list. If possible, could
>>>> you
>>>> send this to the list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When we were doing the grave marking ceremony for Randolph White in
>>>> 2010,
>>>> this brief report was sent to me concerning some questions on the
>>>> James
>>>> Cooley family. Laurele White was the Macon County, Mo Cooley-White
>>>> researcher that made huge contributions to this history. Mrs. White
>>>> died
>>>> in 2010. She also mentions the researcher from Seattle. As you can
>>>> see,
>>>> she was not certain who the James Cooley that married Jane White was
>>>> so
>>>> perhaps none of us should jumped too fast on this call. She had
>>>> worked
>>>> on
>>>> this history for many, many years and her children are very involved
>>>> in
>>>> the Macon Historical Society so if there was any proof, one way or the
>>>> other, they should have known. Plus her husband descended from James
>>>> Cooley, through Jemima that married Thomas Kirkland White.
>>>>
>>>> As far as John Cooley that married Elizabeth White, I think that
>>>> question
>>>> has been answered from the autobiography of Joseph Cooley, son of
>>>> William
>>>> C. Cooley(John, Joseph, John A.) He was not very old when his
>>>> grandfather
>>>> died, but his grandmother lived longer and his father, William also
>>>> was
>>>> alive so surely Joseph would have known who his great grandfather was
>>>> with
>>>> all those people still living.
>>>> Jane
>>>>
>>>>
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