Re: Admin of James Cooley vs. E.C. Cooley from Michael Cooley on 2013-02-25 (John Cooley Mailing List)

From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:24:10 -0800

And so it continues. I've also seen attempts to link the Cooley/Gargus
line to Benjamin. It's very reminiscent of the Hamil/Dutch Cooley thing.

-Michael

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> My sister has a private tree on Ancestry that I have been helping with
> the Cooley side, but a few years ago someone started a public tree that
> linked Martha to Seaborn and eventually back to the Ensign Benjamin
> line! I don't think the owner of the public tree is active anymore but
> the damage has been done as many other trees have copied and pasted the
> bogus connections.
>
> Jim
>
> On 2/24/2013 9:33 PM, Bonnie & Craig Lillywhite wrote:
>> I keep seeing on Ancestry, etc, families posting Martha Beardon as the
>> wife of James or Seaborn James Cooley. However, I see the marriage
>> recorded in Monroe County, MO as John Cooly and Martha Bierden. Just FYI
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com
>> <mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com>> wrote:
>>
>> From: Ann Turk <aturk_at_worldnet.att.net
>> <mailto:aturk_at_worldnet.att.net>>
>> Subject: Re: [MOCHARIT-L] Joseph Cooley Autobiography
>> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:09:27 -0500
>> References: <200009120249.e8C2nXX31853_at_cgi.rootsweb.com
>> <mailto:200009120249.e8C2nXX31853_at_cgi.rootsweb.com>>
>>
>> Susie,
>>
>> Do you happen to have an Angelina Cooley in your line? Daniel
>> Morgan was a
>> brother to my g g grandfather Jefferson Morgan. Angelina evidently
>> died
>> before 1868 when Daniel married his second wife in Fannin County,
>> Texas. I
>> believe that Daniel and Angelina had at least two children.
>>
>> > And Jim noticed that E.C's 2nd marriage was performed by
>> Schmittou,
>> > apparently the same man who was the James's administrator in
>> 1858/59--the
>> > bride being his niece.
>> >
>> > http://johncooley.net/list/current/0208.html
>> >
>> > There was a John Cooley (1802-) living in Macon county in 1850
>> and 1860.
>> > In the latter census he was living next to Perrin. I've always
>> assumed he
>> > was Perrin Sr's son. If that's true, and he was James Cooley's
>> (of Dickson
>> > county) brother, why isn't he named in 1858/59? Could it be that
>> we have
>> > two Johns (son of Perrin and son of James) mixed up, just as I
>> believe we
>> > have for a couple of Jameses (son of Joseph and son of James)
>> mixed up?
>> > The John Cooley of 1850 and 1860 appears not to have had
>> children. Was
>> > *he* the son of James (1772-1821)? It would make sense that the
>> John who
>> > died in 1846 was James's (of Dickson) brother rather than a
>> cousin. This
>> > means he would have taken in his sister-in-law and her family.
>> If that's
>> > the case, we would have:
>> >
>> > John, father of
>> > Perrin Sr, father of
>> > John, father of
>> > E.C. and Milo
>> >
>> > Why would he cut them out of his will?
>> >
>> > (I need to call it quits for tonight. I've written about 3 pages
>> of a 6
>> > page essay due tomorrow.)
>> >
>> > -Michael
>> >
>> >> Jim had found the William Bearden and Hannah Cooley marriage:
>> >>
>> >> http://johncooley.net/list/current/0775.html
>> >>
>> >> I think we can now be pretty sure that Hannah was a daughter of
>> Perrin
>> >> Sr.
>> >> The 1810 census shows him with two young daughters and four sons.
>> >>
>> >> 1810 > KENTUCKY > WASHINGTON > NO TWP LISTED
>> >> Series: M252 Roll: 8 Page: 323
>> >>
>> >> Perrin Cooley 40010 02100
>> >>
>> >>> Yeah, that's what we were thinking. I did find that James sold
>> some
>> >>> Randolph county land prior to 1850. I was thinking that
>> happened in
>> >>> preparation for his move. But I would think it was more likely
>> James
>> >>> took
>> >>> in Martha and her children. (Willow was almost certainly Milo,
>> who
>> >>> we've
>> >>> proven to have been EC's brother.) The principle problem I had
>> with
>> >>> that
>> >>> is that John H was probably born c1812 and probably married
>> Eliza Lock.
>> >>> Your John may have been born before 1810. But those ages
>> aren't so far
>> >>> apart that they can't be reconciled. Maybe that wild notion
>> will turn
>> >>> out
>> >>> to be true after all.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> We were thinking that James and Martha Cooley took in
>> Elizabeth, E.C.,
>> >>>> Polly, and Willow after John hung himself. If in fact that
>> John is
>> >>>> whom
>> >>>> we
>> >>>> are assuming.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I wish I could get to Dickson and do some digging around.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ________________________________
>> >>>> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com
>> <mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com>>
>> >>>> To: John Cooley Mailing List
>> <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net
>> <mailto:undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>>
>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:53 PM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: Admin of James Cooley vs. E.C. Cooley
>> >>>>
>> >>>> These are probably his siblings: William, Perrin, Nellie
>> Green, Hannah
>> >>>> Bearden (!), Elizabeth Stinson, Angeline Morgan, and Edward
>> Cooley.
>> >>>> Likely, they are listed by age--perhaps some of the younger
>> ones might
>> >>>> have been nieces or nephews. An Edward Cooley, if fact, shows
>> up on a
>> >>>> census with Perrin Cooley:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1850 > ILLINOIS > CALHOUN > ILLINOIS
>> >>>> Series: M432 Roll: 99 Page: 306
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Perrin Cooley 27 Farmer MO
>> >>>> Harriet Cooley 19 IL
>> >>>> Edward Cooley 18 MO
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The question, of course, is how is EC related? Perhaps a
>> nephew he
>> >>>> ignored, a son of a deceased brother?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Someone needs to look carefully at the court records for
>> Dickson
>> >>>> county.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -Michael
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Wow! This is great! It will prove to be a really big clue
>> for Jim's
>> >>>>> John
>> >>>>> and deserves a lot of study. The thing is that if James
>> Cooley is who
>> >>>>> I
>> >>>>> think he is, he probably didn't have any children. If true,
>> these
>> >>>>> were
>> >>>>> probably his closest living relatives.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The mention of William Bearden is going to be of great
>> interest to
>> >>>>> Jim.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Do you have any more of these gems?!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -Michael
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Has anyone seen this before? It's from the Jan. 4, 1859
>> Nashville
>> >>>>>> Union
>> >>>>>> and American.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I couldn't get it to paste directly into the email so I've
>> made it a
>> >>>>>> Word
>> >>>>>> attachment.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
>> President, the Genealogy Club of Humboldt State University
>> Administrator, the Eldridge Family DNA Project
>> Administrator, the Ashenhurst Family DNA Project (in the works)
>> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
>> Co-Administrator, the Cooley Family DNA Project
>> Instructor "Genealogy and Family History," the Osher Lifelong
>> Learning
>> Institute (OLLI)
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
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> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">My sister has a private tree on
> Ancestry that I have been helping with the Cooley side, but a few
> years ago someone started a public tree that linked Martha to
> Seaborn and eventually back to the Ensign Benjamin line!  I
> don't
> think the owner of the public tree is active anymore but the
> damage has been done as many other trees have copied and pasted
> the bogus connections. 
> 
> Jim 
> 
> On 2/24/2013 9:33 PM, Bonnie & Craig Lillywhite wrote: 
> </div>
> <blockquote
> cite="mid:20130225053355.ZPHS24356.eastrmfepi207.cox.net_at_eastrmimpi210"
> type="cite">I keep seeing on Ancestry, etc, families posting
> Martha Beardon as the wife of James or Seaborn James Cooley.
> However, I see the marriage recorded in Monroe County, MO as John
> Cooly and Martha Bierden. Just FYI 
> 
> <div class="gmail_quote">
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Michael Cooley <span
> dir="ltr"><<a
> moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com"
> target="_blank">michael_at_newsummer.com</a>>
> wrote: 
> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
> .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> From: Ann Turk <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
> href="mailto:aturk_at_worldnet.att.net">aturk_at_worldnet.att.net</a>> 
> Subject: Re: [MOCHARIT-L] Joseph Cooley Autobiography 
> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:09:27 -0500 
> References: <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
> href="mailto:200009120249.e8C2nXX31853_at_cgi.rootsweb.com">200009120249.e8C2nXX31853_at_cgi.rootsweb.com</a>> 
> 
> Susie, 
> 
> Do you happen to have an Angelina Cooley in your line? Daniel
> Morgan was a 
> brother to my g g grandfather Jefferson Morgan. Angelina
> evidently died 
> before 1868 when Daniel married his second wife in Fannin
> County, Texas. I 
> believe that Daniel and Angelina had at least two children. 
> <div class="HOEnZb">
> <div class="h5"> 
> > And Jim noticed that E.C's 2nd marriage was performed
> by Schmittou, 
> > apparently the same man who was the James's
> administrator in 1858/59--the 
> > bride being his niece. 
> > 
> > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
> href="http://johncooley.net/list/current/0208.html"
> target="_blank">http://johncooley.net/list/current/0208.html</a> 
> > 
> > There was a John Cooley (1802-) living in Macon
> county in 1850 and 1860. 
> > In the latter census he was living next to Perrin.
> I've always assumed he 
> > was Perrin Sr's son. If that's true, and he was James
> Cooley's (of Dickson 
> > county) brother, why isn't he named in 1858/59? Could
> it be that we have 
> > two Johns (son of Perrin and son of James) mixed up,
> just as I believe we 
> > have for a couple of Jameses (son of Joseph and son
> of James) mixed up? 
> > The John Cooley of 1850 and 1860 appears not to have
> had children. Was 
> > *he* the son of James (1772-1821)? It would make
> sense that the John who 
> > died in 1846 was James's (of Dickson) brother rather
> than a cousin. This 
> > means he would have taken in his sister-in-law and
> her family. If that's 
> > the case, we would have: 
> > 
> > John, father of 
> > Perrin Sr, father of 
> > John, father of 
> > E.C. and Milo 
> > 
> > Why would he cut them out of his will? 
> > 
> > (I need to call it quits for tonight. I've written
> about 3 pages of a 6 
> > page essay due tomorrow.) 
> > 
> > -Michael 
> > 
> >> Jim had found the William Bearden and Hannah
> Cooley marriage: 
> >> 
> >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
> href="http://johncooley.net/list/current/0775.html"
> target="_blank">http://johncooley.net/list/current/0775.html</a> 
> >> 
> >> I think we can now be pretty sure that Hannah was
> a daughter of Perrin 
> >> Sr. 
> >> The 1810 census shows him with two young
> daughters and four sons. 
> >> 
> >> 1810 > KENTUCKY > WASHINGTON > NO TWP
> LISTED 
> >> Series: M252 Roll: 8 Page: 323 
> >> 
> >> Perrin Cooley 40010 02100 
> >> 
> >>> Yeah, that's what we were thinking. I did
> find that James sold some 
> >>> Randolph county land prior to 1850. I was
> thinking that happened in 
> >>> preparation for his move. But I would think
> it was more likely James 
> >>> took 
> >>> in Martha and her children. (Willow was
> almost certainly Milo, who 
> >>> we've 
> >>> proven to have been EC's brother.) The
> principle problem I had with 
> >>> that 
> >>> is that John H was probably born c1812 and
> probably married Eliza Lock. 
> >>> Your John may have been born before 1810. But
> those ages aren't so far 
> >>> apart that they can't be reconciled. Maybe
> that wild notion will turn 
> >>> out 
> >>> to be true after all. 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> We were thinking that James and Martha
> Cooley took in Elizabeth, E.C., 
> >>>> Polly, and Willow after John hung
> himself. If in fact that John is 
> >>>> whom 
> >>>> we 
> >>>> are assuming.  
> >>>>   
> >>>> I wish I could get to Dickson and do some
> digging around. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> ________________________________ 
> >>>>  From: Michael Cooley <<a
> moz-do-not-send="true"
> href="mailto:michael_at_newsummer.com">michael_at_newsummer.com</a>> 
> >>>> To: John Cooley Mailing List <<a
> moz-do-not-send="true"
> href="mailto:undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net">undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net</a>> 
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:53 PM 
> >>>> Subject: Re: Admin of James Cooley vs.
> E.C. Cooley 
> >>>> 
> >>>> These are probably his siblings: William,
> Perrin, Nellie Green, Hannah 
> >>>> Bearden (!), Elizabeth Stinson, Angeline
> Morgan, and Edward Cooley. 
> >>>> Likely, they are listed by age--perhaps
> some of the younger ones might 
> >>>> have been nieces or nephews. An Edward
> Cooley, if fact, shows up on a 
> >>>> census with Perrin Cooley: 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 1850 > ILLINOIS > CALHOUN >
> ILLINOIS 
> >>>> Series: M432 Roll: 99 Page: 306 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Perrin Cooley 27 Farmer MO 
> >>>> Harriet Cooley 19 IL 
> >>>> Edward Cooley 18 MO 
> >>>> 
> >>>> The question, of course, is how is EC
> related? Perhaps a nephew he 
> >>>> ignored, a son of a deceased brother? 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Someone needs to look carefully at the
> court records for Dickson 
> >>>> county. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> -Michael 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Wow! This is great! It will prove to
> be a really big clue for Jim's 
> >>>>> John 
> >>>>> and deserves a lot of study. The
> thing is that if James Cooley is who 
> >>>>> I 
> >>>>> think he is, he probably didn't have
> any children. If true, these 
> >>>>> were 
> >>>>> probably his closest living
> relatives. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> The mention of William Bearden is
> going to be of great interest to 
> >>>>> Jim. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Do you have any more of these
> gems?! 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> -Michael 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>>   
> >>>>>> Has anyone seen this before? 
> It's from the Jan. 4, 1859 Nashville 
> >>>>>> Union 
> >>>>>> and American. 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I couldn't get it to paste
> directly into the email so I've made it a 
> >>>>>> Word 
> >>>>>> attachment. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America 
> President, the Genealogy Club of Humboldt State
> University 
> Administrator, the Eldridge Family DNA Project 
> Administrator, the Ashenhurst Family DNA Project (in the
> works) 
> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project 
> Co-Administrator, the Cooley Family DNA Project 
> Instructor "Genealogy and Family History," the Osher
> Lifelong Learning 
> Institute (OLLI) 
> 
> -- 
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> href="http://newsummer.com/distlist"
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> 0.9</a> 
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President, the Genealogy Club of Humboldt State University
Administrator, the Eldridge Family DNA Project
Administrator, the Ashenhurst Family DNA Project (in the works)
Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the Cooley Family DNA Project
Instructor "Genealogy and Family History," the Osher Lifelong Learning
Institute (OLLI)

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