I'm really not sure. I know his son Joseph, Joel's relation, was Joseph Custer, but I always assumed that had to do with being born so soon after the war. I suppose it's possible it could be a family name, though I sort of doubt it.
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On Mar 31, 2013, at 11:14 PM, The Cooleys <lvcooley5_at_cox.net> wrote:
> Do we have any idea what the "C" in Perrin C. Cooley was for? It's a bit curious that Milo
> was once an "M.C." Cooley and Ervin was often E.C. Cooley, though his death record has
> him as Ervin Wilson? Cooley. Did this generation have a default middle initial? C = 3?
>
> As for Perrin C. being a great nephew of Perrin Sr., why not?. It would seem even more
> likely if we ever determine that Perrin was a surname that had meaning for John 1, either
> from his mother or grandmother, or from his early days in Virginia or North Carolina.
> For all we know, it could have been - Perrin's - mother's maiden name.
>
> On 3/31/2013 1:38 PM, Michael Cooley wrote:
>> Here's something else to add to the mystery.
>>
>> James Cooley's settlement named all of his siblings plus the children of
>> one dead sibling (John who married Bearden). If PC was the son of yet
>> another deceased sibling, why is he not named?
>>
>> Might there be an argument that favors an idea that PC was not the
>> grandson of Perrin Sr but the grandson of one of Perrin's brothers? If so,
>> I can't find it. The other families *seem* well established.
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>> Julie,
>>> Joel Cooley's nephew Jack had his DNA tested which confirmed Perrin C.
>>> 1820-=
>>> 1912 is of the John Cooley line but where, oh where does he belong?!
>>>
>>> Nancy Cooley
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 31, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Julie <lulerianiel_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there any way DNA testing can be done to track down Perrin C's line?
>>>> Ei=
>>> th=3D
>>>> er by Joel or my mother?
>>>> =20
>>>> Since mom and I are female, from Perrin's son's daughter I hadn't really
>>>> g=
>>> iv=3D
>>>> en it much thought,but I know there are new tests...
>>>> =20
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> =20
>>>> On Mar 30, 2013, at 10:28 PM, "Michael Cooley" <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>>>> wro=
>>> te=3D
>>>> :
>>>> =20
>>>>> In support of the five son theory, Perrin has four son on the 1810
>>>>> census=
>>> .=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>> As best as we've been able to tell, Perrin Jr hadn't been born yet. But
>>>>> I=
>>>>> can think of nothing that would identify that other son. :(
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Incidentally, for those who may have missed or forgotten, Perrin sold
>>>>> his=
>>>>> Casey Co KY land in 1811. His wife, Sarah, was named. She was likely
>>>>> the
>>>>> mother of all his children. Of course, they probably married in Stokes
>>>>> Co=
>>>>> NC.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> BTW, here's how I presently have Perrin's children, largely drawn from
>>>>>> James's estate settlement:
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> Eleanor Cooley (1796-) m William Green
>>>>>> James Cooley (1797-1858) m poss Polly Massey
>>>>>> Elizabeth Cooley (c1800-) m Edward Stinson
>>>>>> John Cooley (bef 1810-1846) m1 unk m2 Martha Bearden
>>>>>> William Cooley (c1804-1850+) m1 ___ m2 Sarah Ann Ballinger
>>>>>> Hannah Cooley (1808-1860+) m William Bearden
>>>>>> Perrin Cooley Jr (c1813-1880+) m Lucinda Carter
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> We know from the census that Perrin had two sons and two daughters by
>>>>>> 1800. The 1840 census suggests that John was born 1800-1810. Was he
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> second boy on the 1800? But we need to remember that we haven't yet
>>>>>> ID'd=
>>>>>> the father of Perrin C Cooley. He doesn't belong to James, John or
>>>>>> Perri=
>>> n=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>>> C and William may have been too young to have been Perrin C's father.
>>>>>> So=
>>> ,=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>>> was there a 5th son?
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> I'm still thinking it's Jim's John. His widow (Martha Bearden) and
>>>>>>> children are living with James Cooley in TN in 1850. The dates make
>>>>>>> sense.
>>>>>>> Still, we need more info.
>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> Who does the John that committed suicide in Fayette in 1846 belong
>>>>>>>> to?=
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>>>>>>>> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sat, March 30, 2013 9:01:18 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: The John Cooleys
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> I had long believed that the John Cooley who shows in Macon County
>>>>>>>> MO
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> 1850 and 1860 was the son of Perrin, but we now know that the Jim's
>>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>>> the John who married Martha Bearden, was Perrin's son.
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> John W Cooley (1790-1857) who married Mahala Hardwick is believed to
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> been the son of Daniel.
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> John Cooley (1793-1844) who married Elizabeth White is believed to
>>>>>>>> hav=
>>> e=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>>>>> been the son of Joseph.
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> That leaves James as the only possible father of John of Macon.
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> -Michael
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