Re: 23andMe

From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 15:17:55 -0700

Gloria,

After you log in, go to the gear icon on the far left and select "Browse
Raw Data." At the upper far right of that screen, under your name, you'll
see the link "download raw data." It might take awhile to download. Unless
you understand comma-limited files, just tuck it away somewhere until you
need to upload it to ftdna or elsewhere.

-Michael

> Yes, the sale is $129 to upgrade to the "mega" test, but I dont see the
> sense if it's not going to give me any more info than I already have.
>  
> I have not yet figured out how to download - I'd appreciate if you let me
> know what works for you.
>  
> Thanks for your help!
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: 23andMe
>
>
> Yeah. That's what I figured, too. They do have a sale this weekend. Have
> you checked it?
>
> Genetic genealogy can get complex. But the idea is simple: The greater the
> number of matches you have with another person the greater the likelihood
> of a relationship.
>
> Have you figured out yet how to download the raw data? You'll need that to
> do the transfer. A couple of people recommend that I upload to
> gedmatch.com, but it's been down for a couple of weeks. I'm still looking
> for alternative sites to upload my data to in hopes of getting additional
> reports, analyses, etc.
>
> -Michael
>
>> Yes, I just figured out how to search with surname, and I didn't find
>> you
>> eigher.  I really like that feature though.
>>  
>> I'm glad I checked before I did the same test on ftdna.  It will be
>> cheaper for me to transfer than it will be to upgrade to the mega test
>> on
>> ftdna. 
>>  
>> Thanks for your help!  Boy do I have a lot to learn about DNA.  It makes
>> my head spin.
>>  
>> Gloria
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>  From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: 23andMe
>>
>>
>> I've just read that ftdna testers tend to be more serious genealogists.
>> You can have your results transferred (it's the same test) to ftdna for
>> $89. I did that about a week ago. It could take as long as 10 weeks
>> before
>> the results show up in the database.
>>
>> Half of your DNA, chromosomes 1-22, came from you dad. You also
>> inherited
>> one of your X chromosomes from him. You just don't have a Y. So, yes,
>> half
>> of the genetic material you tested for comes from him and will be
>> reflected in the matches.
>>
>> I just search for surnames under DNA Relatives. If there's a better of
>> doing it, I haven't found it. I searched for both Cooley and Tanner and
>> nothing showed up. I presume, then, that we're not matching at all.
>> That's
>> not a surprise since sine we're so distant.
>>
>> I may have erroneously stated at one time that the 900,000 markers they
>> test represents about 30% of our DNA. It's actually 3%. (I have problems
>> with those pesky decimal points!) There's a long way to go before we
>> have
>> an affordable and exhaustive test.
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>> Michael:
>>>  
>>> Yes, I entered my main surnames including Cooley.  I have 992 matches. 
>>> Is
>>> there a way to search using surnames?
>>> I have found some people that have been in contact, but we believe the
>>> relation is from my paternal side.  Excuse my ignorance, but it is
>>> still
>>> possible for me to be matched with relatives on the paternal side
>>> correct?  I've got a lot to learn. 
>>>  
>>> I'm thinking about doing the upgrade on FTDNA since they have the sale
>>> going on.  I believe that would give me more current relatives that
>>> maybe
>>> would help me in some other lines I'm researching.
>>>  
>>> Gloria
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>  From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>>> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 1:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: 23andMe
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Gloria,
>>>
>>> It's taking me awhile to figure out how to get around. The first thing
>>> you
>>> want to do is enter your surnames. If we have any matches, If we have
>>> matches, I should be able to find you by searching for one of those
>>> names,
>>> such as Cooley.
>>>
>>> Have you clicked on My Results, DNA Relatives? How many matches do you
>>> have?
>>>
>>> H1b would, of course, be you mtDNA haplogroup.
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>>> My results are in.  Not sure how to relate any of it to the Cooley
>>>> line. 
>>>> My halagroup shows as H1b. 
>>>>  
>>>> Gloria
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>  From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
>>>> To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:39 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: 23andMe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jim,
>>>>
>>>> I'm late getting an email out to the CF04 group about the Yorkshire
>>>> discovery. I'm hoping they'll be motivated toward that end.
>>>>
>>>> The CFAA has donated funds to this whole recent project, namely
>>>> defining
>>>> the early American Cooleys via the Y. I'm getting close to completing
>>>> the
>>>> to-do list but may not have an opportunity to redefine the effort
>>>> until
>>>> we
>>>> meet in SLC in 2014. But, besides that, I've yet to correspond with a
>>>> Cooley in England. I'm going to start concentrating on that pretty
>>>> soon,
>>>> though.
>>>>
>>>> We shouldn't get too excited about the Yorkshire connection, although
>>>> it
>>>> is a good starting point and remains the only lead we have. We're also
>>>> R1a1a, but our STRs are strikingly different from CF04. (Only 8 of 12
>>>> markers match.) And then we can't can't find an SNP definition any
>>>> more
>>>> recent than 6,000 years!
>>>>
>>>> But...an optimistic side note. The William Henry Cooley descendant
>>>> (#239164)... has agreed to upgrade to 67 markers. Will the results
>>>> begin
>>>> to diverge...or not..that is the *new* question!
>>>>
>>>> (I've confirmed a 3rd cousin through 23andMe on my dad's mom's side.
>>>> That
>>>> doesn't help the Cooley effort but may help relieve one of my more
>>>> recent
>>>> brickwalls! The other 990 "cousins" don't look too promising, though.)
>>>>
>>>> -Michael
>>>>
>>>>> I'm sorry to hear that the results, so far, are not what you had
>>>>> hoped
>>>>> for, but I appreciate your
>>>>> taking a chance on it.  Like you said, only time will tell but if the
>>>>> last few years are any
>>>>> indication it won't be long before another recalculation and the
>>>>> compass
>>>>> points us in a new
>>>>> direction.  Has the CFAA been involved in any new discoveries or
>>>>> projects?  Would there
>>>>> be any interest in coordinating a search of Cooley descendants in
>>>>> Yorkshire or southern
>>>>> Scotland?  Perhaps there would be a better response generated if the
>>>>> CFAA got behind the
>>>>> effort . ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/8/2013 6:25 PM, Michael Cooley wrote:
>>>>>> The Y-DNA SNP called M198, which is about 6,000 years old, appears
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> the best resolution we can get for now. M417, which I tested
>>>>>> negatively
>>>>>> for, is the only known subclade of M198. (I had hoped for its
>>>>>> presence
>>>>>> since it breaks off into a number of branches.) Instead, we're in a
>>>>>> sort
>>>>>> "everything else" bucket. So, we're definitely not of the haplogroup
>>>>>> R1a1a1--just R1a1a. There will probably be an R1a1a2, etc discovered
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> day, but we're not there yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did a search in Family Finder for several of my surnames, but only
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> has come up--the only one that is designated as a possible 2nd
>>>>>> cousin--and
>>>>>> the designation makes sense. Hopefully, I'll make contact with the
>>>>>> individual.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far, I find 23andMe a mixed bag. It has provided no new
>>>>>> information
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the Y and, despite 991 "cousins," there appears to be little benefit
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> FF
>>>>>> (that could change as I explore it), and there was little in the
>>>>>> medical
>>>>>> stuff that I found of interest. However, the mtDNA upgrade pretty
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> made the $99 worth it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll transfer the test results to FTDNA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most, but not all, of my 23andMe results are in. It lists 991
>>>>>>> "cousins!"
>>>>>>> It's going to take a long time to go through.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My Y haplogroup is given as R1a1a, which is what we already know. I
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to look further, but presence of the M417 mutation would make us
>>>>>>> R1a1a1,
>>>>>>> so I'm guessing it wasn't present. The test I'm waiting for at
>>>>>>> FTDNA--presence of the L448 marker ("New Scandinavian")--then
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>> turn up negative since it's downstream of M417.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did get better resolution of my mtDNA--H1a1.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More as I comprehend it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Michael
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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>>>>> information.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


-- 
Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
President, the Genealogy Club of Humboldt State University
Administrator, the Eldridge Family DNA Project
Administrator, the Ashenhurst Family DNA Project (in the works)
Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the Cooley Family DNA Project
Instructor "Genealogy and Family History," the Osher Lifelong Learning
Institute (OLLI)
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