Re: William Cooley, living next door to John Cooley, Randolph

From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 12:01:22 -0700

Oops. I meant "Joseph Cooley, a resident of Howard County, bought land in
Cole County."

> Look at the enumerations. It's clear. That John was murdered in Randolph
> County cannot possibly be proof of his residence. Remember, too, that land
> records describe land ownership not, unless stated, residence. For
> example, we see at this link that Joseph Cooley, a resident of Randolph
> County, bought land in Cole County:
>
> http://ancestraldata.com/ahnentafel/256/missourilands-sort.cgi?1
>
> To my knowledge, he never lived there. A plat map would likely show that
> block of land with his name on it. It would be a mistake to conclude that
> he lived there. Certainly, of course, it's usually the case, but we must
> always remember that ownership does not equate to residence.
>
> The list spent a great many hours looking at the John Cooley who married
> Martha Bearden--who we now know to have been Perrin's son. The 1840
> Randolph census is an exact match to his family. The one question about it
> is, Who is the elderly woman living with them?
>
> -Michael
>
>> The 1840 census shows John and Elizabeth Cooley living in Randolph
>> County
>> where John died(murdered) in 1844. They were living in Howard County in
>> 1830.
>> Jane
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>> Subject: Re: William Cooley, living next door to John Cooley, Randolph
>>
>>
>>> Several more points here...We know from the 1850 census that Dorothy
>>> did
>>> not die in 1838, as stated here. Her son, Arthur Kiergan, was born in
>>> 1848. He stated he was three when his mother died. That would place her
>>> death in about 1851. 1838 is clearly wrong.
>>>
>>> I have that James's son William married Frances Elizabeth Andrews. That
>>> would make the William who married Sarah Ann Ballinger the son of
>>> Perrin.
>>> (Here's my thinking:
>>> http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/current/0654.html
>>> .)
>>> We know from the probate records of Perrin's son James that William was
>>> still living (in Oregon) at James's death in 1858. Here are my notes
>>> for
>>> that man:
>>>
>>> http://ancestraldata.com/Notes/index.cgi?1167836018+/ahnentafel/256/lineages/johncooley-desc.html
>>>
>>> And here are my readings for the 1840 census (still not finished!) For
>>> Randolph county, I have that "Derrin" (clearly Perrin), John, William,
>>> and
>>> James were sons of Perrin Sr. John and Elizabeth White Cooley were
>>> living
>>> in Howard County.
>>>
>>> Determining who lived next to whom can provide valuable clues, but it
>>> is
>>> not proof of the degree of relatedness.
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>>> After seeing the map done by Cecy Rice from the Randolph County, Mo
>>>> Historical Society showing William Cooley living next door to John
>>>> Cooley,
>>>> I
>>>> have been very curious as I knew this could not be John's son. John
>>>> is
>>>> my
>>>> GGG gf and Wm., born 1818 my GG gf. My William Cooley had no children
>>>> until
>>>> 1841 and the William Cooley during the 1840 census in Randolph County
>>>> shows
>>>> 2 males under 5 and one male age 5 to 9; one male 30 to 39 and one
>>>> female
>>>> 20
>>>> to 29.
>>>>
>>>> According to Jan Martinet's Cooley history, William the son of James
>>>> (John,
>>>> Sr.) was born about 1804 in Ky. He was married about 1825 to
>>>> Dorothy
>>>> Cooley, daughter of John Cooley and Elizabeth White Cooley. She died
>>>> in
>>>> 1838. There is a marriage in Randolph County in 1839 for a William
>>>> Cooley
>>>> and Sarah Ballenger. The 1850 census in Macon County for William and
>>>> Sarah
>>>> shows teen agers and younger children. They are living near a
>>>> Ballenger
>>>> family. In 1834 when William Cooley purchased the land next door to
>>>> John
>>>> and Elizabeth White Cooley, this would mean this is John and Elizabeth
>>>> Cooley's daughter, Dorothy living next to them, married to William
>>>> Cooley,
>>>> son of James according to Jan Martinet and others on Ancestry.
>>>>
>>>> It is confusing when we have Cooley's married to Cooley's and four of
>>>> the
>>>> White children married to four of the Cooley children. Very near the
>>>> John
>>>> Cooley property and the Wm. Cooley property is Timothy Cooley(James),
>>>> Thomas
>>>> K. White and Jemima Cooley (James) White. Thomas K. White and
>>>> Elizabeth
>>>> White married to John Cooley are siblings. Nicholas Tuttle also has
>>>> property connecting to Thomas K. White and Timothy Cooley. After Jane
>>>> White's husband, James Cooley died in 1829 she married the son of
>>>> Nicholas
>>>> Tuttle. We still are not certain if that James Cooley is the son of
>>>> Joseph
>>>> or James Cooley. Thomas K. White was the administrator of that
>>>> estate.
>>>> Since Jane White was his sister, no clue in that about the paternity
>>>> for
>>>> her
>>>> husband, James Cooley, although Jemima Cooley White was the daughter
>>>> of
>>>> James. I am not certain where Jane White and James Cooley lived but
>>>> later
>>>> census show Jane White Cooley Tuttle just inside of Macon County, not
>>>> far
>>>> from College Mound.
>>>> If anyone on our list is from the Wm. Cooley, son of James
>>>> Cooley(John,
>>>> Sr.)
>>>> they may have more info about Dorothy Cooley's death and the second
>>>> marriage
>>>> to Sarah Ballenger.
>>>> Jane Wisdom
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>


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Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
Instructor "Genealogy and Family History," the Osher Lifelong Learning
Institute (OLLI)
B.A. Humboldt State University, History
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