Hi Jim,
I meant the frown to mean what you alluded to in the last post--that
R1a1a1b1a3a is a mouthful. :)
The whole SNP thing is rapidly changing. They are frequently finding new
ones and "retiring" SNPs that are not as definitive as they once thought.
There's some discussion about CTS4179 here:
http://eng.molgen.org/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=908
-Michael
> Does that frown mean we are stuck in L448 or is there still a
> possibility swimming to L176?
> Will the gen2.0 test for CTS4179?
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/15/2013 2:00 PM, The Cooleys wrote:
>> R1a-L448 rolls of the tongue a bit easier :-)
>>
>> On 6/14/2013 11:54 PM, ancestr2_at_host187.hostmonster.com wrote:
>>> http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpR.html
>>>
>>> L448 makes us R1a1a1b1a3a :(
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>>
>>>> My test results for the L448 SNP are *finally* in and I *do* have it!
>>>> FTDNA has *not* changed the haplogroup. However. I suspect they will
>>>> want
>>>> all the upstream markers tested before they change it. At $40 a pop, I
>>>> might as well wait until I can afford the $200 gen2.0 test which, as I
>>>> presently understand it, includes all the latest commercially
>>>> available
>>>> SNPs. (Well...I've just ordered M417 from FTDNA so as to make the
>>>> R1a1a1
>>>> distinction official.)
>>>>
>>>> SNP, by the way, stands for Single Nucleotide Polymorphism--a single
>>>> location in our DNA that has changed from one value to another. SNPs
>>>> on
>>>> the Y chromosome can be thousands, if not tens of thousands, years
>>>> old.
>>>> The SNPs, rather than the STRs that many of us tested, define a
>>>> halogroup.
>>>> It's simply that certain SNPs are found to be closely associated
>>>> with STRs
>>>> (Short Tandem Repeats), which are those strings of chemicals that
>>>> are fast
>>>> mutating, which make them good for judging relationships in the last
>>>> 15
>>>> generations.
>>>>
>>>> Here's a map of the R1a1a1 subclade, generated just last month. L448
>>>> is
>>>> pretty much middle, center. There are now a number of known subclades
>>>> under it. I'm guessing we may test down to at least L176. But I'll
>>>> do some
>>>> reading (or decide on the gen2.0 test) before proceeding.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/R1a,R1a/default.aspx?section=news
>>>>
>>>> L448 is about 2300 years old. That's getting us into the historic
>>>> period.
>>>>
>>>> In other news...
>>>>
>>>> Every now and then I contact a Cooley DNA Project member who hasn't
>>>> entered their most recently known Cooley ancestor. I exchanged emails
>>>> today with kit #99728. He's a descendant of the Peter Cooley who
>>>> immigrated with his family in 1774 as indentured servants. He's
>>>> haplogroup
>>>> E1b1b1, which is nothing like ours.
>>>>
>>>> And test results for the descendant of John Cooley of Franklin
>>>> County have
>>>> come in. He matches to the Halifax County Cooleys! Either his
>>>> genealogy is
>>>> wrong or that line goes back at least one or more generations.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Cooley/default.aspx?section=yresults
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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