My dad Elmo Cooley is now up to 1740 DNA cousins and I'm to 1519 on
23andMe. Several hundred of them share their DNA info with me, but maybe
only 75 have pedigrees of any kind; and of those, I've been able to find
the common ancestor for about 20. A few of these people have Cooleys in
their pedigree, but unfortunately most know only a single (female) Cooley
ancestor - they don't know any male Cooleys. For example L. Gilley shares
a lot of DNA with me, so she is a cousin, but the only Cooley she knows she
descends from is Nancy Winnifred Ann Cooley (11 Sep 1825 South Carolina -
11 Jun 1891 Alabama) who married Thomas McCormick Gilley (31 Aug 1822
Georgia - 3 Mar 1898 Alabama.) Maybe Nancy descends from the recently
discovered South Carolina branch of our Cooleys? Anyone know?
I have found many living cousins on 23andMe of people who descend from
families my male Cooley ancestors married into, especially those with the
surnames White, Mullenix and Youngblood.
A few of the cousins I've found common ancestors for go all the way back to
the 1600s (10th cousins). On the other hand, I have a few known 4th and 5th
cousins that neither my dad or I share any DNA with. (For example you
Michael and Richard Ernst.)
One exciting DNA find was that I now have DNA proof, to go along with paper
records and family stories, that Mark Twain is my 3rd cousin, 5x removed,
on my mom's side. We were born less than 60 miles apart in Missouri, but
the common ancestor was born in Virginia in the 1700s. (The common ancestor
has the surname Moorman - they were Quakers.) My son Patrick is dating a
girl who descends from the same Moorman ancestors. Small world isn't it?
BTW, we of European ancestry have it relatively good regarding DNA testing.
My wife, who was born in the Philippines, has only 173 cousins on 23andMe.
(One-tenth of what my dad has.) She can't identify the common ancestors of
any of them as none (including her) have pedigrees going past their
great-grandparents. And very few of all the hundreds of thousands of people
who have tested at 23andMe are in her F1a mtDNA haplogroup. The test did
reveal however that she has considerable Spanish DNA, whereas she thought
she was at least 95% Asian.
Best Wishes,
Don
“Your DNA contains the greatest history book ever written.” ~ Spencer Wells
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:08 PM, <ancestr2_at_host187.hostmonster.com> wrote:
> Autosomal tests aren't sex specific. The idea is that each generation gets
> half from each parent, a quarter from each grandparent, etc. The five
> generation thing is just a generality. All of our genes, other than the
> occasional mutation, go back many, many generations. It's just that after
> about five generations with all the halving and new mutations, sequences
> become too fragmented to accurately compare.
>
> The biggest problem is that most people share insufficient information in
> their accounts to know whether a match has real significance. I have
> nearly a thousand matches, but only three of them are confirmed.
>
> But 23andme tests for a lot more, including about 2500 mitochondrial DNA
> markers, the X chromosome, and markers useful for medical history. And,
> for men, they test about 1700 markers on the Y.
>
> Of course, there's no guarantee that you'd get any Cooley matches. I
> didn't. :(
>
> -Michael
>
> > Ive thought about seeingif my mother would get tested, but its just at 5
> > generations I think, and apparently Pat Albert only had girls.. and if it
> > won't help, I don't see the point. I'm certainly willing to do anything
> > to try and ID Perrin's lineage though.
> > Perrin > Albert > Mary > Gaye > Mom... yeah, 5
> > If I could find Patsy's children.. they would be only 4 generations I
> > think, since Albert's youngest daughter was younger than my grandmother.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "ancestr2_at_host187.hostmonster.com"
> > <ancestr2_at_host187.hostmonster.com>
> > To: John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
> > Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 5:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Fwd: For the list too]
> >
> >
> > A thought:
> >
> > Autosomal DNA tests are said to be help to about five generations. For
> > some of you, five generations back would include Perrin C. It's a gamble,
> > but it could pay off.
> >
> > I'm curious, how many of you have had the autosomal testing done? FTDNA
> > has lowered lowered the rate to $99, matching 23andme, but 23andme and a
> > much larger database, and includes additional tests.
> >
> > -Michael
> >
> >
> >> It's not you, Nancy. Others have trouble sending attachments. Although
> >> some of us can send them with no trouble, the fault is with the script
> >> that I wrote to run the list. There's something about MIME attachments
> >> it
> >> should be looking for that it's not--or there's something non-compliant
> >> about some of the common emailers that some user. (For example, I know
> >> that IE versions earlier than 8 have a bug regarding an HTML/CSS element
> >> that renders my webpages unreadable.)
> >>
> >> -Michael
> >>
> >> ---------------------------- Original Message
> >> ----------------------------
> >> Subject: For the list too
> >> From: "Nancy Cooley" <nancycooley_at_me.com>
> >> Date: Fri, August 2, 2013 5:14 pm
> >> To: "Michael Cooley" <michael_at_newsummer.com>
> >>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> So sorry, Michael, about the transmission of the photo. We are still
> >> somewhat technologically challenged. Thanks to Bonnie and Curt for
> >> their
> >> email too.
> >>
> >> To Sandy Stanton: We have had the info on Nellie Cooley Woods for some
> >> time and have gradually learned more about her daughter, Daisy Woods
> >> Erickson Briggs also. But who is Nellie's mother? There is no accurate
> >> information. There is a photo of Nellie and Daisy on our Ancestry page
> >> which is private for awhile while I clean it up!
> >>
> >> Bonnie, we have the same on "Frd" for the 1880 census. Was it really a
> >> Fred or Frederick born 1879...or meant to be Albert who was added to the
> >> family at the bottom of the same census page? Margaret (1900 census)
> >> had
> >> 7 children, 2 of whom were living in 1900. If there was a Fred (who
> >> does
> >> not show up in the1885 Kansas census) have not yet discovered what
> >> happened to him.
> >>
> >> Also, thanks again for the clues re Margaret Ann Reed Cooley. She was
> >> 66
> >> when Perrin died in 1912. Could she have remarried and that's why we
> >> can't find her death record in either Montana or Missouri?
> >>
> >> Thanks to you all for your patience and help for we beginners!
> >>
> >> Nancy Cooley
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >> History
> >>
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> >
> >
>
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