Re: Two basic genetic genealogy terms

From: Michael Cooley <michael_at_newsummer.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 22:28:58 -0800

Bonnie, that sounds like it would have been a very rewarding job at times.

As a busy co-admin of the Cooley DNA Project, I'm always trying to track
down Cooleys, many of them not related to us. Most of them balk. But
you've just given me an idea for a good opening line: "I have access to an
inheritance just waiting for a claimant! It's yours for the cost of a
simple eligibility evaluation."

-Michael

> Gotcha! Just wishful thinking. I'm afraid my family is of no help with
> the
> Cooley DNA. I wish you success in finding those who can help. If you need
> help tracking anyone down, let me know. I taught genealogy at several
> Community Colleges in the 1970's and 1980's in So Calif. I also worked as
> an Estate Investigator for about 20 years, tracking down relatives unknown
> and missing in probate matters.
> Bonnie
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:32 PM, <ancestr2_at_host187.hostmonster.com> wrote:
>
>> The descent from Jemima would break the male lineage to John. Since the
>> trail of the Y chromosome follows the surname (with the exception of
>> adoptions, etc.) his test would tell him something about his
>> surname-line,
>> or father-line.
>>
>> For example, your sons' Y would be identical. They would look like your
>> husband's Y chromosome, which would look like "grandpa Lilliwhite's" Y
>> chromosome, etc.
>>
>> > Thanks for the info!! Sure wish I could take one of your classes!! I
>> have
>> > a
>> > male 2nd cuz who is descended from John via James via Jemima. Maybe I
>> can
>> > talk him into getting tested. (I have NO brothers and No male 1st
>> cuz).
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 10:10 PM, <ancestr2_at_host187.hostmonster.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Bonnie,
>> >>
>> >> Having your sons test the Y chromosome would say a lot about the
>> >> Lilliwhite line but nothing about the Cooley line. Typically, the
>> test
>> >> for
>> >> autosomes are generally helpful to about 5 generations back. There
>> might
>> >> be some old genetic artifacts that would match with other people that
>> >> *might* connect that far back, but tracing the connection is very
>> >> difficult, especially if there's any chance there could be multiple
>> >> relationships.
>> >>
>> >> The other test is mitochondrial DNA. It says something about your
>> >> mother's, mother's, mother's, mother, etc.
>> >>
>> >> If I've seen your lineage, I've forgotten it. Something could show up
>> >> with
>> >> autosomes. The test at 23andMe is only $99. In addition to autosomes
>> >> (the
>> >> chromosomes other than X and Y), they test the Y chromosome, the X
>> >> chromosome, mitochondrial DNA, and medical markers. It's fun, and
>> you're
>> >> bound to learn something, but not necessarily something specific to
>> the
>> >> Cooleys.
>> >>
>> >> -Michael
>> >>
>> >> > I am so impressed with the knowledge that some of you have re DNA &
>> >> genealogy! I don't always understand, probably usually. However, my
>> >> question is this, would it be helpful or add any info if I have one
>> of
>> >> my
>> >> > sons tested? They would be 9 generations removed from John.
>> >> > Bonnie
>> >> > On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:58 AM, G Tanner <gjtann7_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >> It's M132133
>> >> >> ------------------------------
>> >> >> *From:* "ancestr2_at_host187.hostmonster.com" <
>> >> >> ancestr2_at_host187.hostmonster.com>
>> >> >> *To:* John Cooley Mailing List
>> >> <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
>> >> *Sent:* Monday, November 4, 2013 10:13 AM
>> >> >> *Subject:* Re: Two basic genetic genealogy terms
>> >> >> GEDmatch isn't working for me today. What's your kit number?
>> >> >> -Michael
>> >> >> > Michael, Have you gotten a chance to look at our match on
>> GedMatch?
>> >> >> If
>> >> >> > so, any thoughts?
>> >> >> > Gloria
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
>> >> >> Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
>> >> >> Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
>> >> >> Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
>> >> >> Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
>> >> >> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
>> >> >> Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
>> >> >> Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
>> >> >> Instructor "Genealogy and Family History," the Osher Lifelong
>> >> Learning
>> >> Institute (OLLI)
>> >> >> B.A. Humboldt State University, History
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
>> >> >> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list
>> >> information.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
>> >> Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
>> >> Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
>> >> Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
>> >> Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
>> >> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
>> >> Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
>> >> Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
>> >> Instructor "Genealogy and Family History," the Osher Lifelong
>> Learning
>> >> Institute (OLLI)
>> >> B.A. Humboldt State University, History
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
>> >> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list
>> >> information.
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
>> Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
>> Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
>> Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
>> Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
>> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
>> Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
>> Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
>> Instructor "Genealogy and Family History," the Osher Lifelong Learning
>> Institute (OLLI)
>> B.A. Humboldt State University, History
>>
>> --
>> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list
>> information.
>>
>


-- 
Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
Instructor "Genealogy and Family History," the Osher Lifelong Learning
Institute (OLLI)
B.A. Humboldt State University, History
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