Don,
As far as I can tell, the Whitfields don't have SNPs at ftdna.
The other R1a1a Cooleys' (CF04) Y-STRs match to several Fergusons. But not
this one (N115616). His Y-STRs look more like ours than theirs.
I'm pulling the SNPs from here:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/R1a/default.aspx?section=ysnp
There's an almost identical match (regarding Ferguson) to a descendant of
Nicholas Byram, whose family went from County Kent to Ireland where
Nicholas was born in 1610. If the tester tested for CTS7179, it doesn't
show at ftdna. Neither the Ferguson nor Byram SNPs show tests for L175 and
L176.
I see only one MacDonald (15983) listed as L175+. You match 338 of 348
SNPs with him.
The Geno 2.0 SNPs are, of course, designed for deep ancestry. They're not
going to tell us anything about people we're related to in the last
300-400 years, which is what we need. I'm sure you're right that the Big Y
test will tell us. It's a little too pricey, though. :) In the meantime,
the Y-STRs are the best indicators.
-Michael
> I noticed the Ferguson surname is mostly found in southern Scotland and
> northern England. Almost the same as our Cooley surname.
>
> Can you check the Whitfields whose Y-DNA matched ours?
>
> -Don
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:54 PM, <ancestr2_at_host187.hostmonster.com> wrote:
>
>> But Ferguson is CTS4179+. That alone probably accounts for the
>> differences. I need to find someone CTS4179-.
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>> > Don, I've just compared your SNPs at FTDNA with a Ferguson's SNPs
>> > (N115616). They match 333 out of 344. That's encouraging. I'll dig
>> deeper.
>> >
>> > -Michael
>> >
>> >
>> >> Nice work Michael. Good to know. -Don
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:13 PM, <ancestr2_at_host187.hostmonster.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Don, I've compared the 1744 Y-SNPS that 23andMe tested for the both
>> of
>> >>> us.
>> >>> We match 100%. I suspect they were chosen because they're ancient
>> SNPs,
>> >>> in
>> >>> which case it's not a surprise. I'll look to see if I can find SNP
>> data
>> >>> for other R1a-L448 testers.
>> >>>
>> >>> -Michael
>> >>>
>> >>> > Here are some steps 23andMe customers might want to take.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > http://dna-explained.com/2013/11/26/now-what-23andme-and-the-fda/
>> >>> >
>> >>> > -Don
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
>> >>> Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
>> >>> Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
>> >>> Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
>> >>> Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
>> >>> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
>> >>> Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
>> >>> Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
>> >>> Instructor "Genealogy and Family History," the Osher Lifelong
>> Learning
>> >>> Institute (OLLI)
>> >>> B.A. Humboldt State University, History
>> >>>
>> >>> --
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>> >>> information.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
>> Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
>> Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
>> Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
>> Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
>> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
>> Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
>> Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
>> Instructor "Genealogy and Family History," the Osher Lifelong Learning
>> Institute (OLLI)
>> B.A. Humboldt State University, History
>>
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>> <a href="http://newsummer.com/distlist">distlist 0.9</a>
>> See http://ancestraldata.com/listarchive/johncooleylist/ for list
>> information.
>>
>
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Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
Instructor "Genealogy and Family History," the Osher Lifelong Learning
Institute (OLLI)
B.A. Humboldt State University, History
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