Re: New DNA test results

From: Cooley <cool.hg.r1a_at_gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:03:52 -0700

I've been speculating for a long time that all Cooleys who descend from the
John Cooley of Stokes Co., NC, born about 1738 is 12-13-15-16 at Y-DNA
marker DYS464. (Let's call these the "Southern" Cooleys.) Those who don't
have those values at that marker descend from an earlier Cooley ancestor
than John, but not John himself. All the Pennsylvania (or "Northern")
Cooleys are 12-15-15-16 at that marker. (BTW, the Pennsylvania values are
the modal R1a values for DYS464.)

I think the difference of the "Northern" and "Southern" Cooley branches at
this marker is a significant because (if true) I think it throws doubt on
John Cooley being the kid transported by the British to Virginia in 1753.
It also (I think) makes it more likely that our first Cooley ancestor to
set foot in America was not John, but his father or grandfather or even
further back. I think the Pennsylvania Cooleys makes it more likely that
the father or grandfather of John Cooley lived north of Virginia & North
Carolina. Maybe in Pennsylvania - maybe even north of there. I realize that
there are other Cooley lines who lived in those Northern American Colonies
whose Y-DNA we don't match, but that doesn't mean that our Cooley immigrant
didn't come from there.

I'm actually excited about this because we have a chance now for a
breakthrough in finding who the immigrant Cooley was. We have a chance to
find a Cooley ancestor born before John in 1738. In order to do so I think
our best bet is to try to find the father (or fathers) of the earliest
known Pennsylvania Cooleys. I'm betting he lived in Pennsylvania or
Colonies north of it.

-Don


On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 8:03 PM, <ancestr2_at_host187.hostmonster.com> wrote:

> The rest of the markers for the second Wm H Cooley tester have come in.
> Kit #305732:
>
> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Cooley/default.aspx?section=yresults
>
> I've also posted them here, just below Edmond's results, which I think is
> a little easier to read:
>
> http://ancestraldata.com/ftdna/compare.cgi?Cooley/CF01.db+284548
>
> As mentioned earlier, the mismatch at DYS439 went away, but the others
> have held. Before passing judgement on that, we need to remember that the
> WMC and Perrin Sr descendants match the 12 repeats at DYS442. But we now
> know that Jim Cooley is not descended from WMC. To a degree, that match
> was a false lead. But I think the 15 repeats at loci 23 and the 18 repeats
> at loci 32 for the three "PA Cooley" testers are telling.
>
> So, were William Henry and James of Jack County TX brothers? I think we
> have a strong genetic case for it. But the genealogy needs to be done. We
> know they were both born in PA and both lived in Ohio before moving to
> Illinois, but that's about it.
>
> -Michael
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