I agree with my cousin Sandy - those I've emailed on Ancestry.com who claim
our John Cooley was Dutch either ignore my email or argue that Y-DNA
doesn't refute their claims. What?!!!! In any event, I don't waste time
arguing with them. -Don
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Sandra Stanton <sandystanton_at_prodigy.net>wrote:
> My experience with some of them leads me to believe that nothing will
> change their minds.
> -sandy
>
> *From:* "ancestr2_at_host187.hostmonster.com" <
> ancestr2_at_host187.hostmonster.com>
> *To:* John Cooley Mailing List <undisclosed.recipients_at_johncooley.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2013 4:22 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: New Y-DNA SNP PF4661 - Is it Cooley?
>
> Event though all evidence refutes the New York Dutch Cooley myth, it will
> never disappear. But once we've found "cousins" in the UK, some of its
> defenders are sure to wake up.
>
> -Michael
>
> > FANTASTIC!!
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ancestr2_at_host187.hostmonster.com
> > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 12:47 PM
> > To: John Cooley Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: New Y-DNA SNP PF4661 - Is it Cooley?
> >
> > Incidentally, I've just started a correspondence with a Cooley from
> County
> > Kent. His Y, which is not at FTDNA, is a match to the Benjamin clan. He's
> > interested in helping me (and the CFAA) locate potential UK testers.
> >
> > -Michael
> >
> >> Michael:
> >>
> >> This is fascinating! I'll be very interested to see your results.
> >>
> >> -Don
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:01 PM, <ancestr2_at_host187.hostmonster.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> One last thing for now...The Y-SNPs I had tested at 23andme and those
> >>> Don
> >>> had tested for the Genographic Project did not include Z284, the
> >>> "parent"
> >>> SNP of L448, the "Young Scandinavian." I haven't checked on it to be
> >>> sure,
> >>> but I think the lack of it may be the reason we're listed at ftdna as
> >>> R1a1a1 rather than as R1a1a1b1a3a. It's really rather academic, but I
> >>> ordered a Z284 test a couple of weeks, if only to satisfy my personal
> >>> curiosity.
> >>>
> >>> We're group CF01. Don is kit #N3690 and I'm #57597:
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Cooley/default.aspx?section=yresults
> >>>
> >>> Sorry if this SNP talk is Greek to many of you. As always, I'd be happy
> >>> to
> >>> answer any questions.
> >>>
> >>> (Incidentally, I gave a three hour seminar on genetic genealogy last
> >>> week.
> >>> There were only six people there but it was a *lot* of fun.)
> >>>
> >>> -Michael
> >>>
> >>> > "Not *much* more than 2000 years old," is what I mean to to say.
> >>> >
> >>> > -Michael
> >>> >
> >>> >> PF4661, a second SNP downstream from our L448, has been discovered.
> >>> It's
> >>> >> a
> >>> >> "sibling" SNP of CTS4179, "The Viking," for which we are negative.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> You may remember that L448, which both Don and I have, is nicknamed
> >>> >> "Young
> >>> >> Scandinavian," and is a not more than 2000 years old. Identifying a
> >>> >> "child" SNP will take us closer to the "genealogical time frame."
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The PF4661 SNP is not yet available from FTDNA. Once it is
> >>> (individual
> >>> >> SNP
> >>> >> testing is $39) I'm sure one of us will have it tested.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> BTW, one of the Wm Henry Cooley descendants is testing for L448.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> -Michael
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
> >>> Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
> >>> Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
> >>> Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
> >>> Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
> >>> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
> >>> Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
> >>> Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
> >>> Instructor "Genealogy and Family History," the Osher Lifelong Learning
> >>> Institute (OLLI)
> >>> B.A. Humboldt State University, History
> >>>
> >>> --
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> >>> information.
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Second VP, the Cooley Family Association of America
> Administrator, the Akins DNA Project
> Administrator, the Ashenhurst DNA Project
> Administrator, the Bishop DNA Project
> Administrator, the Eldridge DNA Project
> Administrator, the alt-McDowell DNA Project
> Co-Administrator, the Cooley DNA Project
> Co-Administrator, the McDougall DNA Project
> Instructor "Genealogy and Family History," the Osher Lifelong Learning
> Institute (OLLI)
> B.A. Humboldt State University, History
>
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