Name: James Hogue
Born: 1754
Place: Ireland
Died: 31 Oct 1827
Place: Butler Co., OH
Buried:
Place: Collinsville Cemetery
Married: 1783
Place: Cumberland Co., PA
I once told my uncle that he was descended from a long
line of old men:
James Hogue was 46 at the birth of
John Hogue was 46 at the birth of
Robert Irwin Hogue was 47 at the birth of
Hugh Wallace Hogue was 45 at the birth of
Ronald Hugh Hogue in 1939
The "tradition", however, stopped there.
Known children of James Hogue and Margaret Irwin:
| Elizabeth Hogue |
1798-1870 |
Elizabeth was born in KY and married Joseph Gaston
McQuiston in Butler Co OH. She and her husband died in Warren County OH.
Three known children: James Hogue McQuiston, Margaret McQuiston and
William Hugh McQuiston. |
| John Hogue |
1800-1872 |
Married Ann R Simpson. |
It would be reasonable to think that James had many more children. To date,
I found no clues to that end.
According to the DAR application of Margaret McQuiston Milne
(3William Hugh McQuiston, 2Elizabeth Hogue,
1James Hogue), James Hogue served with Captain William Hendricks
during the revolution, was captured at Quebec and spent 3 years in a British
prison.150 A list of
recruitments does name a James Hogg but I've been unable to verify that, he
was, in fact, our James. In fact, virtually all that we know about James
Hogue is found in Mrs Milne's application. I have found no primary evidence
that he was born in Ireland or that he served in the Revolution from
Cumberland county PA. I have no idea what Milne's source for his marriage
date was.
See Descendants
of James Hogue to Five Generations for additional information on James's
descendants.
James Hogue Article
My grandmother received the following along with a letter from her niece
(in-law), Jody Hogue Bentson, in 1987. Judging from the content of the
letter, Jody was responding to Birdie's phone call, which she might have
very well have made at my instigation.
Jody did not know who the writer was. Evidently, it was a son or daughter
of Robert Irwin Hogue, James's son. And judging from what follows, the
author was still living in Ringgold county. "Uncle Bob" and aunts Bertha and
Ethel (who my cousins, Patty and Rhonda, fondly recall from their childhood
summer vacations in Tingley) remained in the area all their lives. It seems
unlikely this would have been written by my grandfather, Hugh Hogue, or by
Jody's father, "Uncle Harry".
All five siblings mentioned above lived to the 1960s. I'd suspect that
what follows was written mid-century, certainly well beyond any possibility
of personal knowledge. Since they were third cousins to Margaret Milne, the
DAR applicant, it seems likely to me that she was the source of the
information, although it is not known just what they would have learned from
their own father, Robert (1846-1929). Whoever the writer was, the remark
about the chicken thief is of the kind of humor I came to expect from my Iowa
antecedants.
I've retained all punctuation and grammarical errors as found in my copy,
itself a type-written transcription.
Our father, Robert Irwin Hogue, was born in Butler County, Ohio, Sept. 13,
1846. He was the son of John Hogue, who was born also in Butler County,
Ohio, April 17, 1800. The latter was the son of James Hogue, who was born in
Ireland in 1754.
Great Grandfather, James Hogue came from Ireland to America at the age of 15
years. When he was 16 years old he went to Carlisle, Pa. to reap. Shortly
after that he enlisted in Capt. Hendrick's Rifle Co., and they were drafted
to Quebec. He served Five and One half years in the Revolutionary War.
About the year 1784 he moved from Pennsylvania to Kentucky, and later to
Butler County Ohio. He got a ticket of 40 shillings for his service on the
Trumbull frigate, which is all the pay he got for his five and one half
years service. He was married some years after returning from the
war
Our connections as far as I know are all respectable, law-abiding citizens.
However in recent years there are some Hogue families residing in this
Ringgold County, Iowa, As far as I know they are not related to us. Our
father and his three brothers came to Iowa about 60 years age, and these
Hogues, who are here do not belong to any of these families. If they should
be related it must be quite distant. One, however, was in jail for chicken
stealing, so I am not anxious to trace any relationship.
According to the Navy Department Library
(http://www.history.navy.mil/library), the Trumbull was commissioned from
1776-1781. The following is from page 280 of The Lives of Eminent
Philadelphians, Now Deceased, by Henry Simpson.
In July of this year [1781], [Richard] Dale sailed from the capes of
Delaware as lieutenant of the Trumbull frigate, Captain James
Nicholson.1 When at sea but a few hours, they fell in with a
British frigate and sloop-of-war. After a severe engagement in a dark and
stormy night, the Trumbull, having been crippled by the gale, was compelled
to strike her flag to a force vastly superior. Lieutenant Dale was severely
wounded in this encounter. In a short time he was put on Long Island a
prisoner on parole; he was soon afterwards exchanged, and, in November,
1781, returned to Philadelphia.
1915 Biography
This is part of a much larger article about William C Elder, a
great-grandson of James's. Much of it is difficult to swallow, particularly
that James met the brother of the King.
[link]
A History of Northwest Missouri
edited by Walter Williams
Published by The Lewis publishing company, 1915
p1458
The maternal grandfather of Mr. Elder was John Hogue, a son of James Hogue.
James Hogue was born in Ireland in 1754, came to America at the age of
fifteen, and a year later found work at Carlisle, Pennsylvania. From that
community a few years later he enlisted for service during the American
Revolution in Captain Henrick's Rifle Company, and in three days was on his
way to Boston. At that city his company was assigned to the Quebec
expedition under General Benedict Arnold, made the arduous campaign to the
St. Lawrence, participated in the battle and the storming of the heights,
and was taken a prisoner after General Montgomery was killed. The British
threatened to send all the English, Irish and Scotch back to England to be
hanged as traitors unless they enlisted and fought against the Americans.
Before the prisoners were sent off James Hogue and Thomas Walker2
escaped, were recaptured, again escaped, and while living among the French
the British authorities again apprehended him, and tried him by court
martial and sent him to England. While being taken to prison in England he
got loose from his captors, hid for a time in a cellar, and then traveled
overland towards London. While on the way he met the king's brother, the
Duke of Gloucester, who asked him and his companions what ship they belonged
to. They explained to the duke that they had permission to go by land to
London. In London they were once more captured, made their escape and James
Hogue was finally put aboard a British ship bound for Halifax, subsequently
sent to Charleston, South Carolina, then back to Halifax, and there was put
on board an English privateer which fell in with an American vessel and in
the engagement the British ship was captured. Mr. Hogue quickly made friends
with the captain of the American ship, finally reached Baltimore, and was
assigned to service on the American frigate Trumbull. After about five and a
half years of service in the many vicissitudes between the English and
Americans, he reached Philadelphia, and was granted as pay for his work in
the patriot cause a ticket for forty shillings. In 1784 James Hogue moved
from Pennsylvania to Kentucky and in 1788 to Butler County, Ohio, which was
his home until 1826. One of his children was John Hogue, maternal
grandfather of William C. Elder.
Both of James's children were born in Kentucky so the idea that he had
gone into Ohio as early as 1788 is unlikely.
Other Data
James Hogue appears on the 1810 tax list for Butler county, Ohio.
From the 1820 census:
1820 > OHIO > BUTLER > WAYNE
Series: M33 Roll: 87 Page: 128
James Houge 000101 011010 1
1From navybuddies.com: "Captain James Nicholson
(1737-1804) was the senior Continental Navy Captain in the Revolutionary
War. Prior to receiving his commission in the Continental Navy, he served in
the Colonial Navy with the British and was present during the assault on
Havana in 1762. During the Revolutionary War, he commanded three ships of
the line: DEFENSE, TURNBULL and VIRGINIA. Most notable, when his ship was
blockaded at Baltimore, Captain Nicholson took his men to join Washington at
Trenton, and aided in that victory."
2Dictionary of Canadian Biography Online,
http://www.biographi.ca/009004-119.01-e.php?&id_nbr=2204&&PHPSESSID=uug6tgdqile5b9qs5edh9li2c3,
article about Thomas Walker (-1788) written by Lewis H. Thomas. Could this
be the same man? "When the American army invaded the colony in September
[see Richard Montgomery], Walker, naturally regarded as an enemy and a
traitor, was arrested at L'Assomption, where he owned a farm and potash
plant and where he had been engaged in levying Canadians to fight the
British. On 11 November, when Carleton retreated from Montreal to Quebec,
Walker was placed on a ship bound for Quebec. The Americans captured the
vessel, however, and Walker was released. He returned to Montreal, and there
he housed Benjamin Franklin, Samuel Chase, and Charles Carroll, the three
Congress delegates who arrived in the city early in 1776. When the Americans
withdrew from the province later that year, Walker accompanied them and
established himself in Boston. His subsequent career is obscure, but it is
known that in January 1785 he petitioned Congress to recompense him for the
losses he had sustained in his support of the American revolution. In that
year he also visited Pierre Du Calvet in London."
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